. well, darn. Others like the Gorgon can provide fire support, though not to the same degree that heavier vehicles can. Disclaimer: I posted in this topic simple because its the first topic that google search will deliver. Or, as the next source, there are 'Mech blueprints. Clan Coyote and Clan Blood Spirit were among the first to adopt the ProtoMech and pursue its development with enthusiasm, the Spirits especially, as they suffered a big lack of resources. This, combined with their smaller engines, would allow the Smoke Jaguars to make many more of these for less material. Besides six individual maps, the MapPack Flatlands Terrain Set was published that combined those six maps for a lower price. While a couple MWDA 'mechs are small enough to look good alongside IWM stuff, I've found a surprising number of conventional vehicles that work. The K and D resculpt infantry are in true mech scale and you can compare them to DA infantry here. As such their agility falls somewhere between infantry and 'Mechs: they can move through most buildings with minimal collateral damage and can go from a prone to standing position in seconds. His outrage at having been uninformed about the secret project was tempered by his Clan's dire needs and the good performance of the ProtoMechs against desperate odds. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Of course CBT has never been about scale really but using the Clix as CBT probably wouldn't be too good of an idea. Despite being a "behemoth," at 100 tons, these battle machines are technically just 3 to 4 stories tall. It's not for everyone. 2. Some hobbyists love to build giant terrains where even 1/100 scale mechs would look relatively small. Recent Reviews: Very Positive (154) All Reviews: Very Positive (18,774) Release Date: Apr 24, 2018. when playing on other hex terrain), one "board" translates as 17 hexes for determining range. The models were very clean with no, or minimal flash. This stunning 16-cm BattleTech Rifleman, for instance, was made in 1/100 scale on an Anycubic Photon Mono X . A map set focused on unusual biomes, with two double-sized, 34 x 22", double-sided paper maps. I like using cheap poster frames for two and four maps. Most Protos have a "main gun", a single weapon or piece of equipment of any weight which is braced to the torso but aimed and fired with their hands. There a nice 'Mech / vehicle scaling chart in TRO: 3039. [2], It was not until the development of the Enhanced Imaging (EI) system by Clan scientists that the ProtoMech concept became a viable one. It is shorter in height than most BT hovers but once elevated on a base I think it will not be very noticeable. Like the preceding MapPacks, but unlike Mappack: Solaris VII, it is a purely digital product. ProtoMechs nine tons and under are also not equipped with ejection systems, and cannot dump ammunition in an emergency. So run of 6. Most infantry work pretty well, and their bases are practically the same size as a hex, if you don't feel like rebasing. They may become reluctant to leave their machine, and may even start to believe the ProtoMech is their own body.[14]. Knowing that their Khans would not even consider full-scale production of ProtoMechs until they were proven effective in combat, the Smoke Jaguar scientists and geneticists began working on the project in secret, understanding that it could be years before their work could be revealed. Is there any size difference between the Clix WotC versions and the pewter IWM and Fasa ones? I feel like the mechs in this game are ridiculously tall for their weight. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Quote from: Jim1701 on 12 May 2011, 13:40:14, Quote from: Cergorach on 12 May 2011, 14:22:32, Quote from: Lafeel on 12 May 2011, 15:03:38, Quote from: A. Lurker on 12 May 2011, 14:04:25, Quote from: Demon55 on 12 May 2011, 15:10:19, Quote from: ANS Kamas P81 on 13 February 2018, 05:03:32, Quote from: Charlie Tango on 12 May 2011, 15:09:32, Quote from: SteelRaven on 14 February 2018, 00:31:56, Quote from: Weirdo on 17 May 2013, 13:24:25, Quote from: jklantern on 18 November 2014, 23:27:02, Quote from: YingJanshi on 14 February 2018, 01:18:34, Quote from: Daemion on 14 February 2018, 02:14:23. German edition published in 1993 as "GeoTech III" (see below). Download the BattleTech Advanced 3062 Installer from the link provided above. Per pg20 Total Warfare, 'Mechs "stand eight to fourteen meters tall". Edit - if you are using any of the recent Catalyst campaign books, these maps will be used. Every time I see it I see something I've never seen before! Smoke Jaguar scientists found that if something wasn't done soon, their Clan worlds would soon be stripped of the ores needed for BattleMech production. You can also get them printed, as is via Poster Print factor linked on the thread with less modification. What comes in the Latest "A game of armored combat"? WH40K - Imperim of Man: - Space Marine Terminator Armour (Exosuit) - Imperial Knight (light Mech) - Warhound Titan (medium Mech) - Reaver Titan (heavy Mech) - Warlord Titan (assault Mech) - Imperator Titan (super-heavy Mech) Image details. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Scale in battletech miniatures is an iffy thing, even within figures made within a similar time frame, I wouldn't fret about it too much. - Bob Ross. Take command of your own mercenary outfit of 'Mechs and the MechWarriors that pilot them, struggling to stay afloat as you find yourself drawn into a brutal interstellar civil war. The official height of a Mech has always been a discussion point, some official products have given different heights for certain Mechs, licenced products (like computer games) have given a plethora of conflicting heights for Mechs, and the official miniatures are so out of scale that it isn't funny. I spend way too much time zooming in on stuff. It's your world. For nearly a day and a half we were an island of resistance in a sea of Falcon Green. The Clan Invasion boxed set includes two unique, double-sided 18 x 22 full-color game maps. You could also put plexiglas or lexan over the top for additional $. In the wake of the Dig, Defend, or Die 2018 Worldwide Event, a series of related PDF products was released by CGL that included the scenario's Terrain Set of four newly created maps under the "Map Pack" moniker. Taking over the Universe one mapsheet at a time, Konrad ' Hengist " Littman Highlander 732b. Between 1990 and 1997, German BattleTech licensee FanPro, who would later also be the game's English-language publisher for a time, reproduced Map Sets 2 through 5 and sold them as GeoTech I through IV in Germany. Cookie Notice Under standard rules the mapsheet is also referred to as a unit of distance with the range of artillery pieces being originally expressed in terms of the number of mapsheets (or "boards") a given unit could fire. 1. turn off vsync in btech settings and Set vsync to fast and go max performance options in either nVidia control panel or AMD control panel. It keep them from shifting around too much and provides some protection. Beyond that, it's up to the designer to fit it all together in a manner that functions, regardless of how tall it ends up being. (These vessels fall into the WarShip category for technical reasons, but are not intended to be used as combat vessels. The Irresponsible Captain Tyler. It has no impact on gameplay. How's it sit? Like other units, the individual ProtoMech designs have their own roles which are determined by speed, armor, and equipment. But its cheap, so you can get more if it does. A high-quality neoprene extra-large map set, with one mega-sized, 72 x 48" double-sided BattleMat. Create maps that suit your needs. The Reinforcements: Clan Invasion boxed set includes one unique, double-sided 36 x 22 full-color game map focused on Twycross. Mech minis are of kinda inconsistent scale anyways. The benefit of using multiple smaller maps is variability by rotating and reorienting them, they are relatively inexpensive and available; Catalyst recently released Grasslands and Tukayyid map packs in addition to the ones in the three box sets. Count the heat hawk as an axe. Im mostly interested in the 3039 era mechs. The thing that binds most official direct sources of height is that almost all of them are pretty old. and printing them via Inked Gaming on a neoprene map (neoprene maps are totally worth it). In 2017 Ulisses Spiele released a new, original BattleTech Starterbox boxed set (not to be confused with the previous "Einsteigerbox"). So youre free to refer to the general size comparison chart from TRO3039, use any of the video-game based charts available or make up a scale that you feel is sensible on your own. on: 15 September 2012, 21:08:30 . Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I read in another thread that Mechs have been gradually scaled up over time in successive mediums in order to make them look more imposing. On a standard mapsheet the hex size as originally printed is approximately 1.25 inches and depicts terrain 30 meters (roughly 100 feet) across. 'Let the poetry of darkness be written henceforth!. Press J to jump to the feed. Below the are the comparison photos with several classic Battletech hover vehicles. A Gundam Particle cannon is the comparable damage to a capital ship weapon, and vaporizes all the armor it touches, taking out entire mechs in a single shot, absolutely coring them completely. So 4v4/5v5 is two maps, 8v8/10v10 is four maps, 12v12/15v15 is six maps, etc. Official height (dimensions) of Mechs and Vehicles? Clix is played on N scale 1:160~ where a 1/16th of an inch is a scale foot. ProtoMechs can carry most of the same weapons and equipment as found on 'Mechs, although instead of carrying standard missile launchers they mount groups of missile tubes together. This gave room for the pilot to ride in the torso while still allowing ample space for weapons. Image size. Five additional hex maps were included. The Solaris VII: The Game World boxed set, published in 1991, included maps for five arenas (with one arena requiring two sheets), one for each of the major houses. Not all mechs are the same. Typically, two mapsheets would be included with every boxed set. The maps retained their English names, but the markings on the maps are in German. So I guess the answer is 1:285 (6mm) is "considered" default but the other two are likely to work. Plus the Soviets have long proved that there are ways to pack people tighter into vehicles than the US army does it. Is this true? Special rules are provided for playing on certain maps. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The first sculpt Atlas goes only to the hip. Cubed square law means the bigger the structure the exponentially weaker it becomes. FanPro product #35002 was released in 2005. Your enemies might be hard to detect from orbit, so you need mechs on the ground to call in targets. This page was last edited on 4 February 2023, at 22:56. The beginner boxed set includes one unique, double-sided 18 x 22 full-color game map, with maps called Grasslands #1 (Side A) and Desert #1 (Side B). I've never seen one of these with Battletech on it! The best "official" thing is the size chart you can find in the Technical Readout: 3039. We have an interrogation to attend to." Some, like the Siren, use their high speed for recon work. Although the battle was ultimately lost, the ProtoMech's debut could not be ignored by the other Clans. Yes, a Battletech PPC can vaporize 0.66 tons of armor. Sets with other playing maps were later produced as game supplements. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Mechs are tall and bigbut scaleing on the minis are nowhere near exact. The casting is excellent. Similarly, the mapsheets in the Solaris VII game represent only 7.5 meters of ground distance, a quarter of the scale of standard BattleTech. Two Strana Mechty "Grand Melee" Circle of Equals BattleMat. while lights usually are more spindly and thin. I love hexes waaay too much to ditch them. In BattleTech, spacegoing WarShips are often classified with the following terms, based on their role. It's amazing how many fandoms are represented. After the Great Refusal and the destruction of the Smoke Jaguars, many Clans launched raids on Huntress in order to acquire the technology for their own purposes. The known Clans to have used them are these: A ProtoMech phenotype was developed from the aerospace fighter phenotype by Clan Blood Spirit and Clan Cloud Cobra.[25][26][27]. Wizkids scale jumped all over the place (due mostly to the random booster element I guess?) As a result they are depicted as being something like twice as big today as they were originally. I'd stick to neoprene maps. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Somewhere between dawdle and a Leviathan full of overkill. The sympathetic bond between man and machine can also lead to a kind of "god complex" in which the pilot feels as though they are unstoppable. It may not display this or other websites correctly. BattleTech - The Board Game of Armored Combat, Quote from: Delta_Ice on 06 October 2011, 23:35:09, Quote from: Lord Cameron on 07 October 2011, 12:17:39, Quote from: whiteshadowzo on 07 October 2011, 13:25:52, Quote from: Sigma on 08 October 2011, 01:10:48, Quote from: krazzyharry on 08 October 2011, 18:56:31, Quote from: Lorcan Nagle on 08 October 2011, 17:24:05, Quote from: Talz on 08 October 2011, 19:31:06, Quote from: Weirdo on 09 October 2011, 10:38:02, Quote from: Col.Hengist on 02 January 2015, 13:16:47, Quote from: Wikkid on 02 January 2015, 13:34:47, Quote from: Col.Hengist on 02 January 2015, 16:10:55, Quote from: Greywind on 02 January 2015, 16:03:33. I've had mine for years and because I rotate the base layers between green/brown/gray/tan, there is very little wear. JavaScript is disabled. Nearly every Clan obtained ProtoMech salvage on Huntress, producing them in limited numbers. Various fan organizations and third parties have created custom mapsheets for tournaments or general gaming. [9], The Inner Sphere, however, showed little to no interest in developing their own ProtoMechs. This page was last edited on 24 February 2023, at 15:28. Developer: I really wish that were the case. All the official TT sources stay within the same general size ranges that has always been the same. Hex sides were printed with various colors to show the changes in terrain features and elevations that could affect the use of certain abilities and equipment. There was one such map for each (Light, Medium, Heavy and Assault-class) "Solaris VII Action Pack" set and one for the "Youngblood Training Field" that went with the Atlas and Marauder promotional pieces. They're a tad hard to come by right now due to the kickstarter but they'll be up on Catalysts webstore eventually and they have more designs coming with wave 2: https://imgur.com/a/yoSHDS3. A high-quality neoprene map set, designed for hexless Alpha Strike play, with one double-sized, 36 x 22", double-sided BattleMat. Additionally, the Proto's small size makes it harder to hit, and even if it loses an arm or head the unit can remain combat effective. We want to get our hands on battle maps that are bigger and better quality than the Battletech maps. For example, when the ProtoMech's arm is torn off, the pilot feels a great deal of pain, almost as their own arm had been ripped away. I used the blue for cutting out lakes, ponds and rivers, greens for light/heavy trees, black/gray for buildings, roads and city base layer. A lot of series go big and never really explain it or do anything with it. Someone must've put a ton of time into this with how many ships are represented on here. With their fusion engines, they can move considerably faster than battle armor but are more compact than BattleMechs. The set was created to complement the BattleTech Map Pack: Grasslands that was released shortly after this set, and also including a number of these grassland maps on the reverse side of the BattleMats. I'm assuming you mean the WizKids "Clix" versions and the IWM versions? So 4v4/5v5 is two maps, 8v8/10v10 is four maps, 12v12/15v15 is six maps, etc. The writers are imagining things that haven't been invented yet and often don't have the technical know how to know if something is feasible or not. Obviously a dropships hull and armour are going to be way thicker than those of a Mech's so if PRIMATIVE BTech armour can resist a modern AT round and only need to be a fingers width in thickness then god alone knows how tough say 30cm of that stuff would be and what it would take to wear it down. Due to their size and tonnage, ProtoMech weapon loadouts are somewhere between that of battle armor and 'Mechs. It should have had. BattleTroops was one notable departure from this printing convention, instead using a layout of points in a triangular (or arguably hexagonal) pattern rather than a hex-grid. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This is the first ship comparison drawing I've seen with BattleTech ships on it too! Most of the neoprene/vinyl battle mat companies can put a 1.25 or 1.75 hex overlay on any of their mats, and generally can be had in 4'x4', 4'x6' and sometimes 4'x8' sizes. They're Macross kits mounted on clix bases. Battletech's source material is rather loose with mech size with many of us surely having different opinions on what is "correct." The default size of the game is 'MWO scale' which probably fits with Jordan's soundbite in a recent Paradox stream where he mentioned the Mechs are "30 meters tall." However, with just one quick toggle in a JSON, you can set them to whatever you want! 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